Malawi
Geography
Malawi is a landlocked country about the size of Pennsylvania. Located in southeast Africa, it is surrounded by Mozambique, Zambia, and Tanzania. Lake Malawi, formerly Lake Nyasa, occupies most of the country's eastern border. The north-south Rift Valley is flanked by mountain ranges and high plateau areas.History
Early human inhabitants of what is now Malawi date to 8000–2000 B.C. Bantu-speaking peoples migrated there between the 1st and 4th centuries A.D. A large slave trade took place in the 18th and 19th centuries and brought Islam to the region. At the same time, missionaries introduced Christianity. Several major kingdoms were established in the precolonial period: the Maravi in 1480, the Ngonde in 1600, and the Chikulamayembe in the 18th century.The first European to make extensive explorations in the area was David Livingstone in the 1850s and 1860s. In 1884, Cecil Rhodes's British South African Company received a charter to develop the country. The company came into conflict with the Arab slavers in 1887–1889. Britain annexed what was then called the Nyasaland territory in 1891 and made it a protectorate in 1892. Sir Harry Johnstone, the first high commissioner, used Royal Navy gunboats to wipe out the slavers.
Between 1951 and 1953, Britain combined Nyasaland with the colonies of Northern and Southern Rhodesia to form a federation, a move protested by black Africans who were wary of alignment with the ultra conservative white minority rule in South Rhodesia.
Ni
lake Nyasa au Lake Malawi?
Lake Nyasa or Lake Malawi?
The name of the lake itself is also disputed. Malawi claims the lake is named 'Lake Malawi' while international maps and other countries (most notably Tanzania) claim the name of the lake to be 'Lake Nyasa'. The origins of the dispute in the name have their background in geopolitical disputes that began prior to Malawi's independence in 1964, when it was previously known as Nyasaland.
Further complications emerged for different political reasons in the 1960s, when the then President Banda (of Malawi) became the only African leader to establish diplomatic relations with white South Africa. This was fiercely repudiated by other African leaders, including the then President Nyerere (of Tanzania). The contrasting attitudes and policies gave further impetus to disputes between the two governments, on the name of the lake itself, and the boundary between the two countries.
At present, the dispute between the two governments is largely dormant. Intergovernmental relations between Malawi and Tanzania are largely cordial.
Tanzania-Malawi dispute
The partition of the lake area between Malawi and Tanzania is disputed. Tanzania claims international borders through the lake along the lines of the borders between the German and British territories before 1914; Malawi, meanwhile, claims the whole non-Mozambican lake, including the waters next to the Tanzanian shore. The foundations of the dispute were set when the British colonial government, which had recently captured Tanganyika from Germany, put the water under the jurisdiction of Nyasaland without a separate administration for the Tanganyika portion. The dispute has led to conflicts in the past, though for several years Malawi has declined to enforce its claims to the disputed portion.
Occasional flare-ups in in the 1990s and in recent times have impacted fishing rights, particularly of Tanzanian's who reside on the lake shore, who have occasionally been accused of fishing in Malawian waters.
JE MNASEMAJE
Habari hiyo hata Mimi nimewahi
kuisikia, hata ukiangalia Ramani ya ziwa hilo linaitwa Ziwa Malawi tofauti na
hapo zamani tulipoliona kwenye ramani kama ziwa nyasa. Nashindwa kuelewa kwa
dhati kama mpaka umegawanywa upya ama ndio yale yale ya kuambiwa kuwa Mlima
Kilimanjaro upo Kenya.Inapaswa mipaka ya nchi yetu iwekwe wazi ili kutokuja
kupoteza maeneo na Vivutio vyetu vya asili.
Mpaka wa Tanzania na Malawi una matatizo ya muda mrefu, nakumbuka mwaka 1978 kulikuwa na kurushiana risasi kati ya Majeshi ya Tanzania na Malawi, kwa siku mbili mfululizo kulikuwa na amri ya kutokuwasha Taa katika Mji wa kyela mkoani Mbeya, Kipindi hicho nilikuwa Mbeya, Mkuu wa Mkoa wa mbeya kwa Wakati Huo Mzee Richard Wambura alisema Mwl Nyerere ameamuru majeshi yetu yarudishe mapigo kama itaonekana Banda ataingiza majeshi Kyela. Serikali ya Banda ilikuwa inadai maeneo ya Matema Beach, Mto Songwe mpaka Ipinda yapo ndani ya Ardhi ya Malawi.
Mpaka wa Tanzania na Malawi una matatizo ya muda mrefu, nakumbuka mwaka 1978 kulikuwa na kurushiana risasi kati ya Majeshi ya Tanzania na Malawi, kwa siku mbili mfululizo kulikuwa na amri ya kutokuwasha Taa katika Mji wa kyela mkoani Mbeya, Kipindi hicho nilikuwa Mbeya, Mkuu wa Mkoa wa mbeya kwa Wakati Huo Mzee Richard Wambura alisema Mwl Nyerere ameamuru majeshi yetu yarudishe mapigo kama itaonekana Banda ataingiza majeshi Kyela. Serikali ya Banda ilikuwa inadai maeneo ya Matema Beach, Mto Songwe mpaka Ipinda yapo ndani ya Ardhi ya Malawi.
JE MNASEMAJE
Sasa inawezekana kabisa tumelitoa kwa hiyari ziwa liwe upande wa Malawi nasi tumebakiwa na Bandari tupu ya Itungi,ambayo sasa nafikiri haina hata meli moja baada ya TACOSHILI kufa.
Kama serikali imelitoa hilo ziwa kwa
Wamalawi pasipo kuhusisha maoni ya Watanzania, basi serikali inalo la kujibu.
Huwezi kuwaambia wananchi waliokaa pale miaka nenda rudi eti, hayo maji
usiyaguse ni ya wamalawi hayo.
Hili suala ni lazima serikali ilitolee kauli haliwezi kuwa kimya kimya milele!
Hili suala ni lazima serikali ilitolee kauli haliwezi kuwa kimya kimya milele!
JE MNASEMAJE
Miaka ya 1970 Kamuzu Banda, rais wa
Malawi, alitangaza kuwa lile ziwa lote ni la Malawi na akaanza kuwabugudhi
Watanganyika waliokutwa kwenye ziwa. Nyerere akasogeza majeshi pale na kumtumia
ujumbe Kamuzu aache uchokozi. Kamuzu akanywea.
Tangu hapo hakujawahi kuwapo maelewano rasmi.
Hilo ziwa lilikuwa linajulikana kama ziwa Nyasa kutokana na wenyeji pande zote mbili kuwa Wanyasa. Malawi vile vile ilikuwa inajulikana kama Nyasaland. Walipopata uhuru wakabadili jina na kujiita Malawi. Kwa hiyo na jina la ziwa wakalibadilisha bila makubaliano na sisi. Kwa hiyo kwao ni Ziwa Malawi na kwetu ni Ziwa Nyasa.
Tangu hapo hakujawahi kuwapo maelewano rasmi.
Hilo ziwa lilikuwa linajulikana kama ziwa Nyasa kutokana na wenyeji pande zote mbili kuwa Wanyasa. Malawi vile vile ilikuwa inajulikana kama Nyasaland. Walipopata uhuru wakabadili jina na kujiita Malawi. Kwa hiyo na jina la ziwa wakalibadilisha bila makubaliano na sisi. Kwa hiyo kwao ni Ziwa Malawi na kwetu ni Ziwa Nyasa.
JE MNASEMAJE
Mgogoro huo ulianza enzi ya Kamuzu
Banda alipokuwa raisi. miaka ya sitini Kamuzu alikuwa anazungumza kwenye redio
yao, Malawi Broadcasting Corporation kutoka Blantyre, Malawi, na kusema ziwa
lote ni la Malawi na pia wilaya ya Rungwe na hadi Mbeya ni sehemu ya Malawi.
Kuna siku mwezi wa September 1968 Nyerere alimwita Banda ni kichaa. Alikasirika sana kwa sababu ya madai ya Mzee Kamuzu kwamba sehemu za Tanzania ni za Malawi. Alidai hata Mbamba Bay na sehemu zingine mkoani Ruvuma karibu na Ziwa Nyasa kwamba ni za Malawi. Pia alidai jimbo lote, Eastern Province, la Zambia. Kaunda alimjibu Banda na kusema ni shauri yake akitaka kuanzisha vita.
Kabla ya mgogoro huo, Banda alikuja Tanzania na kukutana na Nyerere mwaka 1962 na kumwambia hakuna nchi ya Mozambique. Alimwambia Nyerere wagawane nchi hiyo. Alimwambia Nyerere sehemu ya kaskazini ya Mozambique, sehemu ya Wamakonde jimbo la Cobo Delgado, "ni lako" Nyerere. Ni sehemu ya Tanzania. Sehemu za Mozambique zilizobaki ni za Malawi, Rhodesia na Swaziland. Nyerere alimpuuza tu.
Baada ya miaka michache, 1968, Kamuzu akatangaza na kusema sehemu zetu za Tanzania nilizozitaja hapo juu ni sehemu za Malawi.
Mzee Kamuzu alikuwa ni mkorofi sana.
CHANZO CHA MGOGORO
Mgogoro wa ziwa umetokana na uamuzi wa wakoloni wa Kiingereza kuliweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao wa Nyasaland wakati walipokuwa wanatawala nchi hiyo na ilipokuwa ni British Protectorate. Walifanya uamuzi huo baada ya Wajerumani kushindwa katika vita kuu ya kwanza na Waingereza walipoichukua German East Afrika - iliyokuwa inaitwa Deutsch Ostafrika katika Kijerumani - na kuwa koloni yao ya Tanganyika. Kabla ya hapo, kutokana na makubaliano kati ya Waingereza waliokuwa watawala wa Nyasaland na Wajerumani waliokuwa watawala wa nchi yetu, mpaka wa ziwa ulikuwa kati ya ziwa. Na ndiyo mpaka huo tu ambao ni halali pamoja na jina kuitwa Nyasa, siyo Malawi.
Uamuzi wa Waingereza kuliweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao Nyasaland haukubadilisha mpaka wa ziwa kihalali kwa sababu mipaka yote ya nchi zetu ilikubaliwa wakati bara letu lilipogawanywa na wakoloni. Ni mipaka hiyo ambayo hata sisi tuliikubali baada ya kupata uhuru na hakuna hata nchi moja ambayo ina haki peke yake ya kubadilisha mipaka hiyo. Hata Waingereza hawakuwa na haki ya kulikiweka Ziwa Nyasa chini ya ukoloni wao Nyasaland kwa sababu walivunja makubaliano yao na Wajerumani ambayo yalisema mpaka wa ziwa ni kati ya ziwa hilo: nusu ni sehemu ya Deutsch Ostafrika ambayo sasa ni Tanganyika, na nusu nyingine ni ya Nyasaland chini ya utawala wa Waingereza.
Hata wilaya ya Rungwe ambayo ilijumuisha Kyela na Ileje ilikuwa inatawaliwa kutoka Nyasaland mara tu baada ya Wajerumani kushindwa vita kuu ya kwanza na Waingereza walipopewa madaraka ya kutawala nchi ambayo ilikuwa ni koloni ya Wajerumani; yaani nchi yetu ya Tanganyika.
Deutsch Ostafrika - German East Africa - ilikuwa ni nchi tatu: Tanganyika, Ruanda na Urundi (nchi ambazo zilibadili majina na kuitwa Rwanda na Burundi mwaka 1962 baada ya kupata uhuru).
League of Nations - jumuiya ya mataifa iliyoitangulia United Nations - iliwapa Wabeligiji Ruanda na Urundi. Koloni hizo mbili za Wabeligiji zilikuwa zinatawaliwa kutoka Leopoldville, mjii mkuu wa Belgian Congo, nchi ambayo pia ilikuwa inatawaliwa na Wabeligiji. Mpango huo ni kama vile wilaya ya Rungwe ilipowahi kutawaliwa kutoka Karonga na Waingereza waliokuwa wanatawala wa Nyasaland na baadaye kiuchukua nchi yetu ya Tanganyika kutoka kwa Wajerumani.
Baada ya vita kuu ya kwanza, na Wajerumani kushindwa vita hiyo, waziri mkuu wa Uingereza, Lloyd George, kwenye mkutano wa League of Nations alimwambia raisi wa USA, Woodrow Wilosn, kwamba aichukue German East Africa, yaani nchi yetu, na kuiweka chini ya utawala wa Merikani baada ya Wajerumani kuipoteza nchi hiyo katika vita kuu ya kwanza. Lakini President Wilson alikataa. Angekubali, nchi yetu ingetawaliwa na USA na tungekuwa koloni ya USA. Baada ya Rais Wilson kukataa kuichukua nchi yetu, Lloyd George akakubali na kusema ataichukua Tanganyika na kuiweka chini ya utawala wa nchi yake ya Uingereza. Tuliponea chupuchupu kuchukuliwa na Wamerika. Nchi yetu ingechukuliwa na Wamerika, labda tusingepata uhuru. Wamerika wangeing'ang'ania nchi yetu kama vile walivyo ng'ang'ania nchi zingine walizochukua bila kuzipa uhuru.
Kuhusu Ziwa Nyasa, kwa kifupi ni kwamba mpaka halali uko kati ya Ziwa. Ni mpaka ambao Wajerumani na Waingereza walikubaliana kuzigawa koloni zao: Nyasaland kuwa ya Waingereza; nchi yetu, Deutsh Ostafrika, kuwa ni ya Wajerumani. Walikubaliana kwamba mpaka wa ziwa ni kati ya ziwa hilo. Upande mmoja tu, Waingereza, hawakuwa na haki ya kubadili mpaka kati ya Tanganyika na Nyasaland walipolikweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao Nyasaland.
Nukuru kutoka kitabu cha Nyerere and Africa: End of an Era, ukurasa 484:
"Dr. Banda also claimed substantial parts of Tanzania, including - Rungwe district - and the rest of Mbeya Region in southwestern Tanzania, as Malawian territory. He also claimed the entire Eastern Province of Zambia, provoking a curt response from Zambia’s president, Dr. Kenneth Kaunda, who challenged Banda to 'Go ahead and declare war on Zambia.'
And President Nyerere dismissed Banda’s claim to large chunks of Tanzanian territory as 'expansionist outbursts, which do not scare us, and do not deserve my reply.' The outlandish claim also drew a sharp response from Nyerere who said Dr. Banda was 'insane.' But, he warned, 'Dr. Banda must not be ignored; the powers behind him are not insane.'"
Akizungumza ktk chuo kikuu cha Dar es Salaam, November 1997, Mwalimu Nyerere alisema
"In 1961 we became independent. In 1962, early 1962, I resigned as prime minister and then a few weeks later I received Dr. Banda. Mungu amuweke mahali pema (May God rest his soul in peace). I received Dr. Banda. We had just, FRELIMO had just been established here and we were now in the process of starting the armed struggle.
So Banda comes to me with a big old book, with lots and lots of maps in it, and tells me, 'Mwalimu, what is this, what is Mozambique? There is no such thing as Mozambique.' I said, 'What do you mean there is no such thing as Mozambique?' So he showed me this map, and he said: 'That part is part of Nyasaland (it was still Nyasaland, not Malawi, at that time). That part is part of Southern Rhodesia, that part is Swaziland, and this part, which is the northern part, Makonde part, that is YOUR part.'
So Banda disposed of Mozambique just like that. I ridiculed the idea, and Banda never liked anybody to ridicule his ideas.
So he left and went to Lisbon to talk to Salazar about this wonderful idea. I don’t know what Salazar told him. That was ‘62."
Kuna siku mwezi wa September 1968 Nyerere alimwita Banda ni kichaa. Alikasirika sana kwa sababu ya madai ya Mzee Kamuzu kwamba sehemu za Tanzania ni za Malawi. Alidai hata Mbamba Bay na sehemu zingine mkoani Ruvuma karibu na Ziwa Nyasa kwamba ni za Malawi. Pia alidai jimbo lote, Eastern Province, la Zambia. Kaunda alimjibu Banda na kusema ni shauri yake akitaka kuanzisha vita.
Kabla ya mgogoro huo, Banda alikuja Tanzania na kukutana na Nyerere mwaka 1962 na kumwambia hakuna nchi ya Mozambique. Alimwambia Nyerere wagawane nchi hiyo. Alimwambia Nyerere sehemu ya kaskazini ya Mozambique, sehemu ya Wamakonde jimbo la Cobo Delgado, "ni lako" Nyerere. Ni sehemu ya Tanzania. Sehemu za Mozambique zilizobaki ni za Malawi, Rhodesia na Swaziland. Nyerere alimpuuza tu.
Baada ya miaka michache, 1968, Kamuzu akatangaza na kusema sehemu zetu za Tanzania nilizozitaja hapo juu ni sehemu za Malawi.
Mzee Kamuzu alikuwa ni mkorofi sana.
CHANZO CHA MGOGORO
Mgogoro wa ziwa umetokana na uamuzi wa wakoloni wa Kiingereza kuliweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao wa Nyasaland wakati walipokuwa wanatawala nchi hiyo na ilipokuwa ni British Protectorate. Walifanya uamuzi huo baada ya Wajerumani kushindwa katika vita kuu ya kwanza na Waingereza walipoichukua German East Afrika - iliyokuwa inaitwa Deutsch Ostafrika katika Kijerumani - na kuwa koloni yao ya Tanganyika. Kabla ya hapo, kutokana na makubaliano kati ya Waingereza waliokuwa watawala wa Nyasaland na Wajerumani waliokuwa watawala wa nchi yetu, mpaka wa ziwa ulikuwa kati ya ziwa. Na ndiyo mpaka huo tu ambao ni halali pamoja na jina kuitwa Nyasa, siyo Malawi.
Uamuzi wa Waingereza kuliweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao Nyasaland haukubadilisha mpaka wa ziwa kihalali kwa sababu mipaka yote ya nchi zetu ilikubaliwa wakati bara letu lilipogawanywa na wakoloni. Ni mipaka hiyo ambayo hata sisi tuliikubali baada ya kupata uhuru na hakuna hata nchi moja ambayo ina haki peke yake ya kubadilisha mipaka hiyo. Hata Waingereza hawakuwa na haki ya kulikiweka Ziwa Nyasa chini ya ukoloni wao Nyasaland kwa sababu walivunja makubaliano yao na Wajerumani ambayo yalisema mpaka wa ziwa ni kati ya ziwa hilo: nusu ni sehemu ya Deutsch Ostafrika ambayo sasa ni Tanganyika, na nusu nyingine ni ya Nyasaland chini ya utawala wa Waingereza.
Hata wilaya ya Rungwe ambayo ilijumuisha Kyela na Ileje ilikuwa inatawaliwa kutoka Nyasaland mara tu baada ya Wajerumani kushindwa vita kuu ya kwanza na Waingereza walipopewa madaraka ya kutawala nchi ambayo ilikuwa ni koloni ya Wajerumani; yaani nchi yetu ya Tanganyika.
Deutsch Ostafrika - German East Africa - ilikuwa ni nchi tatu: Tanganyika, Ruanda na Urundi (nchi ambazo zilibadili majina na kuitwa Rwanda na Burundi mwaka 1962 baada ya kupata uhuru).
League of Nations - jumuiya ya mataifa iliyoitangulia United Nations - iliwapa Wabeligiji Ruanda na Urundi. Koloni hizo mbili za Wabeligiji zilikuwa zinatawaliwa kutoka Leopoldville, mjii mkuu wa Belgian Congo, nchi ambayo pia ilikuwa inatawaliwa na Wabeligiji. Mpango huo ni kama vile wilaya ya Rungwe ilipowahi kutawaliwa kutoka Karonga na Waingereza waliokuwa wanatawala wa Nyasaland na baadaye kiuchukua nchi yetu ya Tanganyika kutoka kwa Wajerumani.
Baada ya vita kuu ya kwanza, na Wajerumani kushindwa vita hiyo, waziri mkuu wa Uingereza, Lloyd George, kwenye mkutano wa League of Nations alimwambia raisi wa USA, Woodrow Wilosn, kwamba aichukue German East Africa, yaani nchi yetu, na kuiweka chini ya utawala wa Merikani baada ya Wajerumani kuipoteza nchi hiyo katika vita kuu ya kwanza. Lakini President Wilson alikataa. Angekubali, nchi yetu ingetawaliwa na USA na tungekuwa koloni ya USA. Baada ya Rais Wilson kukataa kuichukua nchi yetu, Lloyd George akakubali na kusema ataichukua Tanganyika na kuiweka chini ya utawala wa nchi yake ya Uingereza. Tuliponea chupuchupu kuchukuliwa na Wamerika. Nchi yetu ingechukuliwa na Wamerika, labda tusingepata uhuru. Wamerika wangeing'ang'ania nchi yetu kama vile walivyo ng'ang'ania nchi zingine walizochukua bila kuzipa uhuru.
Kuhusu Ziwa Nyasa, kwa kifupi ni kwamba mpaka halali uko kati ya Ziwa. Ni mpaka ambao Wajerumani na Waingereza walikubaliana kuzigawa koloni zao: Nyasaland kuwa ya Waingereza; nchi yetu, Deutsh Ostafrika, kuwa ni ya Wajerumani. Walikubaliana kwamba mpaka wa ziwa ni kati ya ziwa hilo. Upande mmoja tu, Waingereza, hawakuwa na haki ya kubadili mpaka kati ya Tanganyika na Nyasaland walipolikweka ziwa hilo chini ya utawala wao Nyasaland.
Nukuru kutoka kitabu cha Nyerere and Africa: End of an Era, ukurasa 484:
"Dr. Banda also claimed substantial parts of Tanzania, including - Rungwe district - and the rest of Mbeya Region in southwestern Tanzania, as Malawian territory. He also claimed the entire Eastern Province of Zambia, provoking a curt response from Zambia’s president, Dr. Kenneth Kaunda, who challenged Banda to 'Go ahead and declare war on Zambia.'
And President Nyerere dismissed Banda’s claim to large chunks of Tanzanian territory as 'expansionist outbursts, which do not scare us, and do not deserve my reply.' The outlandish claim also drew a sharp response from Nyerere who said Dr. Banda was 'insane.' But, he warned, 'Dr. Banda must not be ignored; the powers behind him are not insane.'"
Akizungumza ktk chuo kikuu cha Dar es Salaam, November 1997, Mwalimu Nyerere alisema
"In 1961 we became independent. In 1962, early 1962, I resigned as prime minister and then a few weeks later I received Dr. Banda. Mungu amuweke mahali pema (May God rest his soul in peace). I received Dr. Banda. We had just, FRELIMO had just been established here and we were now in the process of starting the armed struggle.
So Banda comes to me with a big old book, with lots and lots of maps in it, and tells me, 'Mwalimu, what is this, what is Mozambique? There is no such thing as Mozambique.' I said, 'What do you mean there is no such thing as Mozambique?' So he showed me this map, and he said: 'That part is part of Nyasaland (it was still Nyasaland, not Malawi, at that time). That part is part of Southern Rhodesia, that part is Swaziland, and this part, which is the northern part, Makonde part, that is YOUR part.'
So Banda disposed of Mozambique just like that. I ridiculed the idea, and Banda never liked anybody to ridicule his ideas.
So he left and went to Lisbon to talk to Salazar about this wonderful idea. I don’t know what Salazar told him. That was ‘62."
Mgogoro wa mpaka katika Ziwa Nyasa unaonesha ngoma bado
mbichi kabisa. Hebu tusome hizi habari kutoka Malawi:
JE MNASEMAJE
At
around the time of independence quite a few people in Tanzania wanted to claim
a huge part of Lake Malawi or Lake Nyasa . Cool heads eventually prevailed, as
most Tanzanians, including the legendary President Julius Nyerere, understood
the importance of respecting boundaries emanating from colonial times. During most of Dr Kamuzu Banda’s rule, Tanzania never really
pushed this crazy idea of dividing up the lake. The issue was almost forgotten
during the rule of Dr Bakili Muluzi and thereafter. In fact, Dr Bingu wa
Mutharika commissioned a company to start exploring oil in the lake. Tanzania
said nothing at that time. Now we
have a new president and all of sudden the Tanzanians are demanding that our
government stop all exploration activities in the lake until all border issues
have been clarified. Why now? Folks,
there is a reason why we have tradition. Tradition may appear useless and
outdated but it is important because it usually become established after a long
experience. In politics there is what is known as ‘presidential protocol’.
These are small things which over the years have proven to be niceties a
president must or must not do in order to represent his/her country correctly.
Test
for President Joyce Banda to diplomatically manage the dispute on the boundary You would think some of them are not important but they are.
Here are a few of them – presidents never bow for other presidents in public;
presidents never escort anybody to their car; presidents walk with their arms
spread outwards apparently projecting power and being in control; presidents
usually put on a solid color (one color) necktie because it portrays power;
when two presidents greet each other while facing the camera, each of them
jostle to be on the right side so that his palm will face the camera- another
sign of power, apparently; when in company of other presidents, they try to be
the last one to enter the door – a fatherly gesture; there is an interesting
video clip of Chairman Yassier Arafat and PM Ehud Barak jostling to be the last
one to enter a room at Camp David. The sight of President George W Bush gently
pushing PM Gordon Brown into Number 10 Downing Street before himself angered
some British political experts. Statesmanship
is a game because image is everything in international politics.
A country’s image depends a lot on the demeanor of its leader. President Barak Obama likes to pat other leaders on their back after greeting them; you thought that was an unplanned coincidence? Just remember, how your father used to pat you on the back when you were a good boy! It is said that Bill Clinton failed to get a good deal at his summit with Boris Yelsin in Moscow because President Clinton having sprained his ankle arrived in Moscow on a wheelchair. The sight of a sick American president is said to have psychologically emboldened Boris Yelsin. Ghana is said to have regained its respect in West Africa when President J.J. Rawlings arrived at the 25th Organization of African Unity meeting in Togo in July 2000 in a military uniform portraying a very youthful image. The presidency is acted on a world stage. What a president says and does is very important! When Joyce Banda took over the presidency, she made it appear like Malawi will now be doing everything the donor community tells her to do. In fact some British newspapers were so pleasantly surprised with this that they called us ‘a donor fearing nation’. President Joyce Banda went to London and even bowed before Queen Elizabeth, a very strange gesture considering that both are heads-of-state. Well, all these words and actions have now collectively given an image of a weak leadership in Malawi. The world has sensed blood. Now Tanzania has decided it is time to split up the lake. Notice that they did not bring up this crazy idea when Muluzi or Mutharika were in charge. If we dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable request, one wonders what the next thing will be. Are they now going to claim Chitipa? Will Mozambique now claim Mulanje Mountain?
Government must make clear that no part of Malawi is up for discussion – full stop! It is time to show strength. Tell Tanzania that Lake Malawi was, is and will always be Malawian. Surprisingly, after all these arrogant statements by the Tanzania government, our government’s response is at best a whimper. The minister of foreign affairs has issued a statement saying the issue will be settled ‘amicably’. Really, Mr. Minister? What could be an amicable statement? Are you planning to even dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable demand? Do you plan to divide up the lake? How can you have an amicable settlement to an
A country’s image depends a lot on the demeanor of its leader. President Barak Obama likes to pat other leaders on their back after greeting them; you thought that was an unplanned coincidence? Just remember, how your father used to pat you on the back when you were a good boy! It is said that Bill Clinton failed to get a good deal at his summit with Boris Yelsin in Moscow because President Clinton having sprained his ankle arrived in Moscow on a wheelchair. The sight of a sick American president is said to have psychologically emboldened Boris Yelsin. Ghana is said to have regained its respect in West Africa when President J.J. Rawlings arrived at the 25th Organization of African Unity meeting in Togo in July 2000 in a military uniform portraying a very youthful image. The presidency is acted on a world stage. What a president says and does is very important! When Joyce Banda took over the presidency, she made it appear like Malawi will now be doing everything the donor community tells her to do. In fact some British newspapers were so pleasantly surprised with this that they called us ‘a donor fearing nation’. President Joyce Banda went to London and even bowed before Queen Elizabeth, a very strange gesture considering that both are heads-of-state. Well, all these words and actions have now collectively given an image of a weak leadership in Malawi. The world has sensed blood. Now Tanzania has decided it is time to split up the lake. Notice that they did not bring up this crazy idea when Muluzi or Mutharika were in charge. If we dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable request, one wonders what the next thing will be. Are they now going to claim Chitipa? Will Mozambique now claim Mulanje Mountain?
Government must make clear that no part of Malawi is up for discussion – full stop! It is time to show strength. Tell Tanzania that Lake Malawi was, is and will always be Malawian. Surprisingly, after all these arrogant statements by the Tanzania government, our government’s response is at best a whimper. The minister of foreign affairs has issued a statement saying the issue will be settled ‘amicably’. Really, Mr. Minister? What could be an amicable statement? Are you planning to even dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable demand? Do you plan to divide up the lake? How can you have an amicable settlement to an
Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
katika pekua pekua yangu nimepata kuona mahali kwamba
Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa, tofauti na ziwa Tanganyika ama ziwa Victoria
ambazo tunagawana maji na nchi kadhaa, lakini inasemekana kwamba Wamalawi
wanadai kuwa Ziwa nyasa ambalo wao wanaliita ziwa malawi ni mali yao na mpaka
halali ni ukingo wa ziwa na si ndani ya maji. je wana JF mnalionaje suala hili?
Chadema kama mnapokea misaada kutoka nje bila kufanya
tathmini, angalieni mkishika dola msije mkaiuza Tanzania na watu wake kwa
vijimisaada vichache- Hao wanaowapa misaada hawana permanent Friends/Enemies,
bali wana permanent Interests.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Habari hiyo hata Mimi nimewahi kuisikia, hata ukiangalia
Ramani ya ziwa hilo linaitwa Ziwa Malawi tofauti na hapo zamani tulipoliona
kwenye ramani kama ziwa nyasa. Nashindwa kuelewa kwa dhati kama mpaka
umegawanywa upya ama ndio yale yale ya kuambiwa kuwa Mlima Kilimanjaro upo
Kenya.Inapaswa mipaka ya nchi yetu iwekwe wazi ili kutokuja kupoteza maeneo na
Vivutio vyetu vya asili.
Mpaka wa Tanzania na Malawi una matatizo ya muda mrefu, nakumbuka mwaka 1978 kulikuwa na kurushiana risasi kati ya Majeshi ya Tanzania na Malawi, kwa siku mbili mfululizo kulikuwa na amri ya kutokuwasha Taa katika Mji wa kyela mkoani Mbeya, Kipindi hicho nilikuwa Mbeya, Mkuu wa Mkoa wa mbeya kwa Wakati Huo Mzee Richard Wambura alisema Mwl Nyerere ameamuru majeshi yetu yarudishe mapigo kama itaonekana Banda ataingiza majeshi Kyela. Serikali ya Banda ilikuwa inadai maeneo ya Matema Beach, Mto Songwe mpaka Ipinda yapo ndani ya Ardhi ya Malawi.
Sasa inawezekana kabisa tumelitoa kwa hiyari ziwa liwe upande wa Malawi nasi tumebakiwa na Bandari tupu ya Itungi,ambayo sasa nafikiri haina hata meli moja baada ya TACOSHILI kufa.
Mpaka wa Tanzania na Malawi una matatizo ya muda mrefu, nakumbuka mwaka 1978 kulikuwa na kurushiana risasi kati ya Majeshi ya Tanzania na Malawi, kwa siku mbili mfululizo kulikuwa na amri ya kutokuwasha Taa katika Mji wa kyela mkoani Mbeya, Kipindi hicho nilikuwa Mbeya, Mkuu wa Mkoa wa mbeya kwa Wakati Huo Mzee Richard Wambura alisema Mwl Nyerere ameamuru majeshi yetu yarudishe mapigo kama itaonekana Banda ataingiza majeshi Kyela. Serikali ya Banda ilikuwa inadai maeneo ya Matema Beach, Mto Songwe mpaka Ipinda yapo ndani ya Ardhi ya Malawi.
Sasa inawezekana kabisa tumelitoa kwa hiyari ziwa liwe upande wa Malawi nasi tumebakiwa na Bandari tupu ya Itungi,ambayo sasa nafikiri haina hata meli moja baada ya TACOSHILI kufa.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Sasa inawezekana kabisa tumelitoa
kwa hiyari ziwa liwe upande wa Malawi nasi tumebakiwa na Bandari tupu ya
Itungi,ambayo sasa nafikiri haina hata meli moja baada ya TACOSHILI kufa.
Kama serikali imelitoa hilo ziwa kwa Wamalawi pasipo
kuhusisha maoni ya Watanzania, basi serikali inalo la kujibu. Huwezi kuwaambia
wananchi waliokaa pale miaka nenda rudi eti, hayo maji usiyaguse ni ya wamalawi
hayo.
Hili suala ni lazima serikali ilitolee kauli haliwezi kuwa kimya kimya milele!
Hili suala ni lazima serikali ilitolee kauli haliwezi kuwa kimya kimya milele!
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Hili suala lipo na liliundiwa kamati wa nchi hiz mbili
mjadala wake nafikri ulishakwisha, na kuna mambo kadhaa yanayotakiw akufanyika
ili kuwekana sawa (MoU)
Suala mojawapo ambalo ni outstanding nakumbuka ilikuwa ni kufanya survey na kuligawanya ziwa in two equal proportions.................we nye inf zaidi wanweza kutuhabarisha.
Suala mojawapo ambalo ni outstanding nakumbuka ilikuwa ni kufanya survey na kuligawanya ziwa in two equal proportions.................we nye inf zaidi wanweza kutuhabarisha.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
mimi nina wasiwasi na jambo moja, Ziwa Victoria japo
asilimia kubwa ipo kwetu lakini limegubikwa na utata wa mkataba kati ya
waingereza na Misri ,mkataba unaoipa misri share kubwa sana ya lile Ziwa kuliko
Tanzania, Kenya na Uganda.
Ukija upande wa Ziwa Nyasa nalo ndo hivyo Wamalawi wanadai kwamba lote ni la kwao, kwa hiyo sisi Tunabaki na ziwa Tanganyika ndo halina mgogoro,
Kwa hiyo ukiliangalia hili suala utagundua sisi Watanzania nchi yetu imezunguukwa na Maji lakini eti hatuna sauti nayo.na iwapo serikali italala baadae tutaambulia patupu.
Serikali iwe makini,maji ni uhai, tukileta ufisadi kwenye maji twafa
Ukija upande wa Ziwa Nyasa nalo ndo hivyo Wamalawi wanadai kwamba lote ni la kwao, kwa hiyo sisi Tunabaki na ziwa Tanganyika ndo halina mgogoro,
Kwa hiyo ukiliangalia hili suala utagundua sisi Watanzania nchi yetu imezunguukwa na Maji lakini eti hatuna sauti nayo.na iwapo serikali italala baadae tutaambulia patupu.
Serikali iwe makini,maji ni uhai, tukileta ufisadi kwenye maji twafa
Chadema kama mnapokea misaada kutoka nje bila kufanya
tathmini, angalieni mkishika dola msije mkaiuza Tanzania na watu wake kwa
vijimisaada vichache- Hao wanaowapa misaada hawana permanent Friends/Enemies,
bali wana permanent Interests.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
viongozi wamehamishia akili zao zote kwenye madini,hamna mtu
mwenye time na maji,hawajui hayo maji ndio uhai.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Kwa kweli nchi yetu ina mzaha na raslimali.Sisi wananchi kwa
kutumia uwakilishi wetu bungeni ni kwa nini tusihoji hili suala?
Inatia kinyaa kuona raslimali tunakalia huku wenzetu hao wakiona uchungu na kutamani hata kile ambacho si chao kama hao Wamalawi.Ni kwa nini na sisi tusiwe na uchungu na nchi yetu?
Inatia kinyaa kuona raslimali tunakalia huku wenzetu hao wakiona uchungu na kutamani hata kile ambacho si chao kama hao Wamalawi.Ni kwa nini na sisi tusiwe na uchungu na nchi yetu?
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Ukiangalia ramani hii inaonyesha hatuna sehemu kabisa ya
ziwa upande wa tanzania.
Tena kuonyesha walakini sehemu hiyo ya mpaka wametumia alama nyekundu tofauti na sehemu nyingine!
Tena kuonyesha walakini sehemu hiyo ya mpaka wametumia alama nyekundu tofauti na sehemu nyingine!
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Kwa anayejua, nawezaje kuweka image itokee hii sehemu ya
maandishi na isilazimike kuwa attachement?
Nimejaribu nikafeli, Admin help!
Nimejaribu nikafeli, Admin help!
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa? Sidhani kama hiyo taarifa ni sahihi. Kitu ambacho kina utata mkubwa kwenye mpaka wa Malawi na Tanzania ni mto Songwe, ambao kwasasa ndio mpaka kati ya Malawi na Tanzania.
Huu mto unakuwa na tabia ya kubadili njia na kila ukibadili njia eneo huhamishwa kupelekwa Malawi au Tanzania na kuleta usumbufu kwa wananchi ambao hulazima kubadili nationality au kulazimika kuhama na kutafuta eneo lingine kwenye nchi yao.
Kwa mfano mto unaweza kubadili njia na kukata kijiji kizima cha Tanzania na kuwa sehemu ya Malawi. Kwa utaratibu wa sasa, wanakijiji hao watakuwa watu wa Malawi au wahamie upande wa Tanzania. Watu wengi, shauri ya mashamba huamua kubaki huko huko na hivyo kubadili nationality.
Kwa muda sasa serikali mbili zinafanya majadiliano na kufanya survey ili kutengeneza mpaka wa kudumu. Jambo hili naona linafanyika sasa miaka zaidi ya 20 lakini hakuna uamuzi wa mwisho bado. Wakati wa Banda ilikuwa ngumu, lakini sasa sioni kwanini wasifikie makubaliano.
Ziwa hilo bado linatumiwa na nchi zote tatu bila ugomvi. Enzi za Banda, alikuwa anasema wazi wazi kwamba lake Nyasa ni la kwao lakini hata wakati huo hakukuwa na matatizo yoyote katika utumiaji wa hilo ziwa.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Sidhani kama hiyo taarifa ni sahihi. Kitu ambacho kina utata mkubwa kwenye mpaka wa Malawi na Tanzania ni mto Songwe, ambao kwasasa ndio mpaka kati ya Malawi na Tanzania.
Huu mto unakuwa na tabia ya kubadili njia na kila ukibadili njia eneo huhamishwa kupelekwa Malawi au Tanzania na kuleta usumbufu kwa wananchi ambao hulazima kubadili nationality au kulazimika kuhama na kutafuta eneo lingine kwenye nchi yao.
Kwa mfano mto unaweza kubadili njia na kukata kijiji kizima cha Tanzania na kuwa sehemu ya Malawi. Kwa utaratibu wa sasa, wanakijiji hao watakuwa watu wa Malawi au wahamie upande wa Tanzania. Watu wengi, shauri ya mashamba huamua kubaki huko huko na hivyo kubadili nationality.
Kwa muda sasa serikali mbili zinafanya majadiliano na kufanya survey ili kutengeneza mpaka wa kudumu. Jambo hili naona linafanyika sasa miaka zaidi ya 20 lakini hakuna uamuzi wa mwisho bado. Wakati wa Banda ilikuwa ngumu, lakini sasa sioni kwanini wasifikie makubaliano.
Ziwa hilo bado linatumiwa na nchi zote tatu bila ugomvi. Enzi za Banda, alikuwa anasema wazi wazi kwamba lake Nyasa ni la kwao lakini hata wakati huo hakukuwa na matatizo yoyote katika utumiaji wa hilo ziwa.
Mtanzania:
Ukiangalia ramani hiyo iliyowekwa na Hume, uataona mpaka ulio ndani ya ziwa ni ule wa Upande wa Congo na Malawi yenyewe lakini kwa upande wa Tanzania mpaka unaonekana uko nje ya ziwa kabisa hali inayoonyesha Tanzania haina kitu pale, je ramani hii unaizungumziaje?, na kwa nini mpaka ule umewekewa rangi nyekundu badala ya njano kama mipaka mingine?
Ukiangalia ramani hiyo iliyowekwa na Hume, uataona mpaka ulio ndani ya ziwa ni ule wa Upande wa Congo na Malawi yenyewe lakini kwa upande wa Tanzania mpaka unaonekana uko nje ya ziwa kabisa hali inayoonyesha Tanzania haina kitu pale, je ramani hii unaizungumziaje?, na kwa nini mpaka ule umewekewa rangi nyekundu badala ya njano kama mipaka mingine?
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa? Sidhani kama hiyo taarifa ni sahihi. Kitu ambacho kina utata mkubwa kwenye mpaka wa Malawi na Tanzania ni mto Songwe, ambao kwasasa ndio mpaka kati ya Malawi na Tanzania.
Huu mto unakuwa na tabia ya kubadili njia na kila ukibadili njia eneo huhamishwa kupelekwa Malawi au Tanzania na kuleta usumbufu kwa wananchi ambao hulazima kubadili nationality au kulazimika kuhama na kutafuta eneo lingine kwenye nchi yao.
Kwa mfano mto unaweza kubadili njia na kukata kijiji kizima cha Tanzania na kuwa sehemu ya Malawi. Kwa utaratibu wa sasa, wanakijiji hao watakuwa watu wa Malawi au wahamie upande wa Tanzania. Watu wengi, shauri ya mashamba huamua kubaki huko huko na hivyo kubadili nationality.
Kwa muda sasa serikali mbili zinafanya majadiliano na kufanya survey ili kutengeneza mpaka wa kudumu. Jambo hili naona linafanyika sasa miaka zaidi ya 20 lakini hakuna uamuzi wa mwisho bado. Wakati wa Banda ilikuwa ngumu, lakini sasa sioni kwanini wasifikie makubaliano.
Ziwa hilo bado linatumiwa na nchi zote tatu bila ugomvi. Enzi za Banda, alikuwa anasema wazi wazi kwamba lake Nyasa ni la kwao lakini hata wakati huo hakukuwa na matatizo yoyote katika utumiaji wa hilo ziwa.
Mkuu angalia ramani hapo juu. Mpaka ni ardhi yetu. Sehemu ya
ziwa yote iko malawi. Au una ramani nyingine tofauti na hiyo? Tuwekee
tulinganishe!
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
NAIBU Waziri wa Ardhi, Nyumba na Maendeleo ya Makazi, Rita Mlaki, aliliambia Bunge jana kuwa hakuna mgogoro wa mpaka kati ya Tanzania na Malawi unaosababishwa na Ziwa Nyasa.
Alisema wameshakaa vikao mara mbili na viongozi wa serikali ya Malawi kuzungumzia kuhusu mipaka na kuridhika kuwa hakuna tatizo hilo kati ya nchi hizo.
Waziri Mlaki alisema wanatarajia kukaa kikao cha tatu ili kupata tafsiri ya namna mipaka inavyogawanywa katika maeneo ya ziwa na bahari.
Alikuwa kijibu swali la nyongeza la Mbunge wa Mkwajuni (CCM), Mzee Ngwali Zuberi, aliyetaka kujua lini serikali za Tanzania na Malawi zitakaa kutatua tatizo la mipaka kati ya nchi hizo.
Swali hilo lilitokana na swali la msingi la Mbunge wa Singida Kaskazini, Lazaro Nyalandu kwa Waziri wa Maji, aliyetaka kujua serikali imeshindwaje kunadi jina la Ziwa Nyasa ili kuondoa utata wa Malawi inayodai kuwa ziwa hilo lote ndani ya nchi yao.
Naibu Waziri wa Maji, Shamsa Mwangunga akijibu swali la Mbunge Nyalandu alisema Tanzania ina uhusiano mzuri na Malawi kwa muda mrefu na kwamba ahaina mgogoro kuhusu ziwa hilo.
Hata hivyo, alikiri kuwa sheria za wakati wa wakoloni ndiyo chimbuko la Ziwa Nyasa na kwamba mkataba wa Anglo German ulibainisha kwamba ziwa hilo ni milki ya Malawi kinyume na taratibu za sasa za mipaka inayopita majini, inayotoa fursa sawa kwa nchi zinazotenganishwa kwa ziwa au bahari, kwamba mpaka upitie katikati ya ziwa au bahari husika.
Alisema Tanzania na Malawi zinaendelea kutumia ziwa hilo kwa shughuli za kila siku bila ya mgogoro wa aina yoyote na pia zinaendelea kubuni miradi ya pamoja ya kuendeleza Bonde la Ziwa Nyasa.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Mkuu angalia ramani hapo juu. Mpaka ni
ardhi yetu. Sehemu ya ziwa yote iko malawi. Au una ramani nyingine tofauti na
hiyo? Tuwekee tulinganishe!
Hume,
Naona jibu langu linakaribiana na jibu alilotoa huyo waziri.
Nilichosema hakujawahi kuwa na ugomvi juu ya namna ya kulitumia hilo ziwa. Hiyo ni mipaka ya kikoloni ambayo inaweza kujadiliwa au hata kupingwa kama kuna matatizo. Lakini kwa uzoefu wangu wa hayo maeneo hakuwajawi kuwa na mgogoro kwenye utumiaji wa hilo ziwa.
Huko nyuma nguvu kubwa iliwekwa kwenye mpaka wa Malawi na Tanzia yaani mto Songwe maana huko ndiko kuna usumbufu kwa wananchi.
Naona jibu langu linakaribiana na jibu alilotoa huyo waziri.
Nilichosema hakujawahi kuwa na ugomvi juu ya namna ya kulitumia hilo ziwa. Hiyo ni mipaka ya kikoloni ambayo inaweza kujadiliwa au hata kupingwa kama kuna matatizo. Lakini kwa uzoefu wangu wa hayo maeneo hakuwajawi kuwa na mgogoro kwenye utumiaji wa hilo ziwa.
Huko nyuma nguvu kubwa iliwekwa kwenye mpaka wa Malawi na Tanzia yaani mto Songwe maana huko ndiko kuna usumbufu kwa wananchi.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Hata hivyo, alikiri kuwa sheria za
wakati wa wakoloni ndiyo chimbuko la Ziwa Nyasa na kwamba mkataba wa Anglo
German ulibainisha kwamba ziwa hilo ni milki ya Malawi kinyume na
taratibu za sasa za mipaka inayopita majini, inayotoa fursa sawa kwa nchi
zinazotenganishwa kwa ziwa au bahari, kwamba mpaka upitie katikati ya ziwa
aubahari husika.
Alisema Tanzania na Malawi zinaendelea kutumia ziwa hilo kwa shughuli za kila siku bila ya mgogoro wa aina yoyote na pia zinaendelea kubuni miradi ya pamoja ya kuendeleza Bonde la Ziwa Nyasa.
Alisema Tanzania na Malawi zinaendelea kutumia ziwa hilo kwa shughuli za kila siku bila ya mgogoro wa aina yoyote na pia zinaendelea kubuni miradi ya pamoja ya kuendeleza Bonde la Ziwa Nyasa.
Nikiangalia majibu haya ya waziri kuna masuala yafuatayo
yanajitokeza
moja Waziri kakiri wazi kwamba kwa Mujibu wa mkataba wa Anglo-German ziwa Nyasa ni Mali ya Malawi.
Na kwa kuwa hadi hivi sasa hakuna mahali Wamalawi wameutangazia ulimwengu Kwamba wanajivua haki ya kumilik Ziwa Nyasa lote(kama mkataba unavyoelezea),basi ni kwamba hilo ziwa Nyasa litaendelea kuwa Mali ya malawi Mpaka mazungumzo yanayoendelea yatakapozaa kitu kipya.
Hoja ya pili hapo ni kwamba kwa kuwa nchi tulizokuwa nazo ni mazao ya mipaka tuliyochorewa na Wakoloni, na kwa kuwa mkataba wa waingereza na wajerumani unaliweka ziwa nyasa ndani ya malawi,na kwa kuwa Wamalawi hawajaweka saini mahali popote kutumegea kipande cha ziwa Nyasa basi ni dhahiri kuwa ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Wamalawi.Hivyo ndivyo nilivoielewa kauli ya Waziri.
Suala la kwamba tuna uhusiano mzuri na malawi, bado haivunji hoja ya kutaka kujua je tuna chetu katika ziwa nyasa? au ni huruma tu ya wamalawi kutuachia achia tu na sisi tupatepo maji ya kunywa
moja Waziri kakiri wazi kwamba kwa Mujibu wa mkataba wa Anglo-German ziwa Nyasa ni Mali ya Malawi.
Na kwa kuwa hadi hivi sasa hakuna mahali Wamalawi wameutangazia ulimwengu Kwamba wanajivua haki ya kumilik Ziwa Nyasa lote(kama mkataba unavyoelezea),basi ni kwamba hilo ziwa Nyasa litaendelea kuwa Mali ya malawi Mpaka mazungumzo yanayoendelea yatakapozaa kitu kipya.
Hoja ya pili hapo ni kwamba kwa kuwa nchi tulizokuwa nazo ni mazao ya mipaka tuliyochorewa na Wakoloni, na kwa kuwa mkataba wa waingereza na wajerumani unaliweka ziwa nyasa ndani ya malawi,na kwa kuwa Wamalawi hawajaweka saini mahali popote kutumegea kipande cha ziwa Nyasa basi ni dhahiri kuwa ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Wamalawi.Hivyo ndivyo nilivoielewa kauli ya Waziri.
Suala la kwamba tuna uhusiano mzuri na malawi, bado haivunji hoja ya kutaka kujua je tuna chetu katika ziwa nyasa? au ni huruma tu ya wamalawi kutuachia achia tu na sisi tupatepo maji ya kunywa
Re:
Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Nikiangalia majibu haya ya waziri
kuna masuala yafuatayo yanajitokeza
moja Waziri kakiri wazi kwamba kwa Mujibu wa mkataba wa Anglo-German ziwa Nyasa ni Mali ya Malawi.
Na kwa kuwa hadi hivi sasa hakuna mahali Wamalawi wameutangazia ulimwengu Kwamba wanajivua haki ya kumilik Ziwa Nyasa lote(kama mkataba unavyoelezea),basi ni kwamba hilo ziwa Nyasa litaendelea kuwa Mali ya malawi Mpaka mazungumzo yanayoendelea yatakapozaa kitu kipya.
Hoja ya pili hapo ni kwamba kwa kuwa nchi tulizokuwa nazo ni mazao ya mipaka tuliyochorewa na Wakoloni, na kwa kuwa mkataba wa waingereza na wajerumani unaliweka ziwa nyasa ndani ya malawi,na kwa kuwa Wamalawi hawajaweka saini mahali popote kutumegea kipande cha ziwa Nyasa basi ni dhahiri kuwa ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Wamalawi.Hivyo ndivyo nilivoielewa kauli ya Waziri.
Suala la kwamba tuna uhusiano mzuri na malawi, bado haivunji hoja ya kutaka kujua je tuna chetu katika ziwa nyasa? au ni huruma tu ya wamalawi kutuachia achia tu na sisi tupatepo maji ya kunywa
moja Waziri kakiri wazi kwamba kwa Mujibu wa mkataba wa Anglo-German ziwa Nyasa ni Mali ya Malawi.
Na kwa kuwa hadi hivi sasa hakuna mahali Wamalawi wameutangazia ulimwengu Kwamba wanajivua haki ya kumilik Ziwa Nyasa lote(kama mkataba unavyoelezea),basi ni kwamba hilo ziwa Nyasa litaendelea kuwa Mali ya malawi Mpaka mazungumzo yanayoendelea yatakapozaa kitu kipya.
Hoja ya pili hapo ni kwamba kwa kuwa nchi tulizokuwa nazo ni mazao ya mipaka tuliyochorewa na Wakoloni, na kwa kuwa mkataba wa waingereza na wajerumani unaliweka ziwa nyasa ndani ya malawi,na kwa kuwa Wamalawi hawajaweka saini mahali popote kutumegea kipande cha ziwa Nyasa basi ni dhahiri kuwa ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Wamalawi.Hivyo ndivyo nilivoielewa kauli ya Waziri.
Suala la kwamba tuna uhusiano mzuri na malawi, bado haivunji hoja ya kutaka kujua je tuna chetu katika ziwa nyasa? au ni huruma tu ya wamalawi kutuachia achia tu na sisi tupatepo maji ya kunywa
Linganisha hili na lile suala la mto Nile. Tanzania huru
inaweza isitambue hiyo sheria. Sijui wanasheria mnasemaje?
Kule Nile nafikiri hatutambui sheria ya mkoloni.
Kule Nile nafikiri hatutambui sheria ya mkoloni.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Linganisha hili na lile suala la mto
Nile. Tanzania huru inaweza isitambue hiyo sheria. Sijui wanasheria mnasemaje?
Kule Nile nafikiri hatutambui sheria ya mkoloni.
Kule Nile nafikiri hatutambui sheria ya mkoloni.
Unajua mara baada ya kupata Uhuru Nyerere alihutubia umoja
wa Mataifa akasema Tanganyika huru haifungwi na mikataba iliyowekwa na wakoloni
kwa niaba yake.
na kwa namna hii ni wazi mkataba wa Nile ni batili kwa msimamo huu wa mwalimu. kwa sababu nile inatokana na ziwa victoria ambalo lipo Tanganyika(isomeke Tanzania)na mikataba yote ya kugawana mipaka ya kikoloni inathibitsha kuwa Tanganyika iwe na ziwa Victoria pamoja na Kenya na Uganda.
Lakini hakuna mahali popote ambapo inaonyesha Ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Tanganyika(na badala yake upo mkataba wa wakoloni unaoligawa Ziwa Nyasa kwa Wamalawi tokea awali kabisa enzi za scramble for Africa). kwa hiyo ni dhahiri pingamizi hili la mwalimu katika Umoja wa Mataifa halihusu ziwa Nyasa kwa sababu halijawahi kuwa mali ya tanganyika(kimipaka).
Labda kama ulivyopendekeza, Tuone wataalamu wa sheria hususan sheria za kimataifa wanalizungumzia vipi hili suala.isije ikawa tunawafundisha watoto wetu jiografia ya uwongo.na kisha tunawatungia mitihani wanayofaulu, kumbe majibu ni ya uwongo.
na kwa namna hii ni wazi mkataba wa Nile ni batili kwa msimamo huu wa mwalimu. kwa sababu nile inatokana na ziwa victoria ambalo lipo Tanganyika(isomeke Tanzania)na mikataba yote ya kugawana mipaka ya kikoloni inathibitsha kuwa Tanganyika iwe na ziwa Victoria pamoja na Kenya na Uganda.
Lakini hakuna mahali popote ambapo inaonyesha Ziwa Nyasa ni mali ya Tanganyika(na badala yake upo mkataba wa wakoloni unaoligawa Ziwa Nyasa kwa Wamalawi tokea awali kabisa enzi za scramble for Africa). kwa hiyo ni dhahiri pingamizi hili la mwalimu katika Umoja wa Mataifa halihusu ziwa Nyasa kwa sababu halijawahi kuwa mali ya tanganyika(kimipaka).
Labda kama ulivyopendekeza, Tuone wataalamu wa sheria hususan sheria za kimataifa wanalizungumzia vipi hili suala.isije ikawa tunawafundisha watoto wetu jiografia ya uwongo.na kisha tunawatungia mitihani wanayofaulu, kumbe majibu ni ya uwongo.
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa?
Kwa maana hiyo Tanzania inakiri kuwa hatuna sehemu kwenye
ziwa nyasa OR sorry wenye ziwa lao wanaliita ziwa Malawi.
Wenye kujua historia, neno Ziwa Nyasa tulilitoa wapi? Au tulibatiza mali za watu?
Kama mtu mmoja alivyoshauri, tubadili contents kwenye jiografia ili ieleweke Ziwa Nyasa haliexist!
Wenye kujua historia, neno Ziwa Nyasa tulilitoa wapi? Au tulibatiza mali za watu?
Kama mtu mmoja alivyoshauri, tubadili contents kwenye jiografia ili ieleweke Ziwa Nyasa haliexist!
Re: Ni kweli kuwa Tanzania haina
haki na ziwa Nyasa? Ni kweli unachosema juu ya Mto Songwe na pia ni kweli nilichosema kuhusu Lake. ni kweli haijawahi kuwepona mgogoro.....................ja mbo lililojiri ni kutoka kwa sisi wenyewe wananchi kuzungumza juu ya Ziwa hili na ndio maana hizi serikali mbili ikabidi zichukue hatua kufanya hizo survey (both to the Lake and mto Songwe) ili kuwekana sawa....................... ninajua nilichokisema kilitokea na kazi inaendelea
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